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Using Numbers to Find the 75 Greatest NBA Players of All-Time

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ryan c
ryan c 59 นาทีที่ผ่านมา
no patrick ewing. lol
Gavin Dennis
Gavin Dennis ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
KD
terrence boone
terrence boone 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
Derrick rose , Dennis Johnson is not better than kyrie Irving
Casey Myers
Casey Myers 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
Rip jazz sax
The Fourth Quarter
The Fourth Quarter 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
One metric you put in drives me crazy - all defensive teams in which certain players (I am looking at you Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. Blasphemy, I know) got a reputation for playing good defense for a few years, then coasted to many more selections. Both of these players made these teams years after they stopped playing great defense. Too make matters worse, Jordan racked up huge numbers of steals because he gambled waaaaaaay toooo much. At times, it seemed like the whole point of his defense was too embarrass his opponent 1 -2 times a game instead of shutting them down. For that reason, I greatly dislike "All Defensive Team" selections. I want to know how many bad nights an opponent had when facing a defender, not how many times a once a game spectacular play was made.
Xazy.
Xazy. 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
Can’t argue with the numbers y’all bias crazy I knew KD was a top 10 talent yall just haters
Dave Douglass
Dave Douglass 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
I think there should be a catergory of "recognizable nickname", a nickname that they earned and are still known as(eg the glove) and "outrageous streak" like when Rodman was bringing down 25 rebounds a game, or when Westbrook had his triple double streak. Those both help separate great from top 75 great imo
Ryan Schmidt
Ryan Schmidt 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
joel embiid over dwayne wade?????
Wario
Wario 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
Scottie Barnes got robbed
Lance Karmo
Lance Karmo 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
Bill Russels championships should be weighted from 11 to something like 3 or 4. Just for the simple fact that only 8 teams played in the league at that team. Because of that, he had a 12.5 percent chance of winning a title every year by basic odds. In today’s NBA, that number is 3 percent. Then, when you consider how much more talent was on his team compared to others at the time, it becomes even less impressive
John Pol
John Pol 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
Labor is to high on the list too. No way he should be ahead of Kobe.
MrBuggy865
MrBuggy865 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
Trae young has accomplished more in his career so far than luka but his size eliminates his ability atm to get on the 1st team because of bias. So I think you have to add the 2nd and 3rd teams, or at least the 2nd teams. Also no dpoy list in the rankings? Also I think there should be points for at least the top 25 in each category since a lot of these players stats are super close to each other, 10th versus 15-20th usually isn’t going to be that huge of a difference.
Shaneosaurus Gaming
Shaneosaurus Gaming 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
Kobe as shot making leader is a bad take kobe has most missed shots all time in nba history and is a career 44 percent fg shooter and we won't talk about his abysmal 3pt percentage he should not be top 20 let alone number 1 and top have kobe over shaq is ridiculous shaq was the Lakers on that team he won all the finals mvp and regular season mvp and should have 2 others against Nash kobe should never be above shaq your definitely too biased here
liamleahy
liamleahy วันที่ผ่านมา
Bob petit 3 careers worse than Larry Bird. You've lost your mind. Luka??? Just stop. nUmBeRs Tho!!! Yes, nUmBeRs can be used to manipulate (Lakers propaganda) editorial. ::rolleyes::
Vaibhav Ganesh
Vaibhav Ganesh วันที่ผ่านมา
AI not on the shot making list?
Gabriel deHoyos
Gabriel deHoyos วันที่ผ่านมา
Lebron is 1
Shunton Phillips
Shunton Phillips วันที่ผ่านมา
When curry's career is done he'll be top 10 with 5 rings
James Edwards
James Edwards วันที่ผ่านมา
Anyone notice how AD got 18pts for PER yet on the final list only had 11?
Mikel Ovalle
Mikel Ovalle วันที่ผ่านมา
There is no way Luka is on this list.
Kadan Ahr
Kadan Ahr วันที่ผ่านมา
Where is lamelo ??
TEFII
TEFII วันที่ผ่านมา
this is a great list but luka, dame and don't belong
Chris Katoanga
Chris Katoanga วันที่ผ่านมา
Good to see Klay on this list, that dude is top 50 all time
wade nance
wade nance วันที่ผ่านมา
so apparently luka has already had a better career than dwade without winning a finals mvp or even going to the finals. crazy how that works
sean wells
sean wells วันที่ผ่านมา
Kyrie being a top 50 on this really surprised me
licht lune
licht lune วันที่ผ่านมา
This would be even better if you adjusted for pace.
Bob Dole
Bob Dole วันที่ผ่านมา
AI at 39 doesn't really do him justice
Paul Sholar
Paul Sholar วันที่ผ่านมา
Your methodology produces results that don't pass the "eye test," so you should find ways to improve it. (For example, adjust points scored and rebounds using a "pace of play" coefficient to normalize data from different eras, and no ABA data penalizes great players like Dr. J and Gervin and David Thompson.) Also, the defects in your methodology's source data benefit more recent great players like Jordan and penalize a great older player like Chamberlain. 1) Scores on your list within 1% to 2% should be considered equivalent. So the "rankings" based on the numbers are basically a bogus exercise. 2) All-Defensive Team and Finals MVP are post-1968 awards. (So maybe Russell wouldn't have won Finals MVP for each of his championships won. HOFer and one-time NBA MVP Bob Cousy played with Russell for seven years, and they won six championships together.) PER incorporates blocks and steals, which were not official stats until 1973. So your stats have at least that much recency bias. 3) Championships won are irrelevant to evaluate individual players because it represents a team accomplishment, so it benefits players employed by a more skilled front office. (Try running your numbers for Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain without incorporating championships won.) On the other hand, the career of MJ (and other players) supports the notion that the individual stats for a great player on a great team will be deflated. (See my comment below.) How to model for this phenomenon (front office goals)? 4) Kobe gets overranked under this kind of "statistical" compendium. Look at his career FG percentage (44.7%) compared with others near his career points scored. His ball-hogging was coddled by the Lakers franchise for a long time (front office goals). As of today, Kobe is #4 for NBA career points scored, but you have to scan down to #16 (Paul Pierce) to find a top scorer with a lower career FG percentage than Kobe's. As of today, only four other NBA players among the NBA's 25 highest career scorers (and only ten out of the top 50) have FG percentage equal to or lower than Kobe's. 5) If Wilt Chamberlain had made at least 70% of his career free throws (which is a typical figure for the NBA's all-time leading scorers, even for centers like Abdul-Jabbar and Olajuwon), instead of 51% (his actual results), he would have scored more career points than Kobe did, and would have been passed only recently for career points scored by LeBron James. Wilt missed almost as many free throws as Shaq made for his career! (By the way, Wilt made 28 of 32 free throws in his 100-point game in March 1962. Al Attles, Wilt's teammate on the Philadelphia Warriors, remarked on video after Wilt's death that after Wilt bulked up by weightlifting, his free throw percentage suffered and never recovered.)
Paul Sholar
Paul Sholar วันที่ผ่านมา
Recently I looked a site that lists the career high scoring games for MJ ... Jordan scored more than 60 points five times. Four of those five games were overtime games, and three of the five were Bulls losses ... Hmmm ... Zooming out of the dataset a little further, Jordan scored at least 56 points ten times. All but three of those games took place *before* the 1991-92 season, which was the season of his second championship won (out of his six championships won). That is, Jordan almost never scored more than 55 points in a game after the season when he won his first championship. ... Hmmm ...
mfc1
mfc1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา
Uhhhh rondo? I like him a lot and have been saying he’s underrated for a couple years now. Idk how I feel about him in top 75
Dendle
Dendle 2 วันที่ผ่านมา
Lebron aint done yet
NeXus Vitel
NeXus Vitel 2 วันที่ผ่านมา
Rondo > Pierce xd wat
isaiah rodante
isaiah rodante 2 วันที่ผ่านมา
lamelo
Kanishk Gandhi
Kanishk Gandhi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา
id say the player that will become the leader in all nba selections is luka doncic
Tuko Alberto
Tuko Alberto 2 วันที่ผ่านมา
I trust numbers! Like it
GeniuX
GeniuX 2 วันที่ผ่านมา
"At his peak, Jordan looked like a Jesus in a basketball Jersey" Hahahahahaha lol
Juan antonio Salgado cuenda
Juan antonio Salgado cuenda 2 วันที่ผ่านมา
Man! You definitely missing nowitzki and Abdul on the list that you made, they even had a name for their shooting mechanic, some of the shoot mechanics that were cosidered unstoppable
Juan antonio Salgado cuenda
Juan antonio Salgado cuenda 2 วันที่ผ่านมา
and Vince Carter...I would like to know Not criticizing man, I love the effort you put on your videos, just expressing my opinion
Aaron M
Aaron M 3 วันที่ผ่านมา
Shot making lebron snub. Really?
Hoopz
Hoopz 3 วันที่ผ่านมา
I did this myself with top 15 and got pretty interesting results 1. Michael Jordan 2. Wilt Chamberlain 3. LeBron James 4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5. Bill Russell 6. Tim Duncan 7. Kobe Bryant 8. Shaquille O'neal 9. David Robinson 10. Magic Johnson 11. Larry Bird 12. Hakeem Olajuwon 13. Kevin Durant 14. Oscar Robertson 15. Stephen Curry
Perry Mitchell
Perry Mitchell 3 วันที่ผ่านมา
Rondo at 62 is weird
default 1990
default 1990 3 วันที่ผ่านมา
I clicked on the link, where supposedly your music tracks come from. Wasted at least 20 minuts clicking and listing to each song and turns out none of them are the track that you play at the start! So does anybody know the song? Because i really like it.
Jaylen Stark
Jaylen Stark 3 วันที่ผ่านมา
Dwight Howard woulda made the list if DPOY was counted in the calculations.
CadenDATboss
CadenDATboss 3 วันที่ผ่านมา
Most accurate list I’ve ever seen. Can’t argue with statistics
Zvonimir Novacic
Zvonimir Novacic 3 วันที่ผ่านมา
manu ginobili can't be measured by stats, and he is top 75 100%
7Nore7
7Nore7 3 วันที่ผ่านมา
Normaly I like your videos but damn you made so many mistakes in this one that I dont even bother to get into it. Just flat out Wrong!
Drionzki
Drionzki 4 วันที่ผ่านมา
Michael Jordan man... could not agree more with that... rank # 2 and below is debatable... but the GOAT is no question MJ
Benjamin Grebe
Benjamin Grebe 4 วันที่ผ่านมา
Derrick Rose is not a better player than Dominique Wilkins I'm sorry.
Jeff Michel
Jeff Michel 4 วันที่ผ่านมา
All time starting 5 Steph MJ KD Garnett Shaq Unbeatable
andre pinzon
andre pinzon 4 วันที่ผ่านมา
I haven’t watched one game of ball in my life, but I been watching your videos for a while now, and I absolutely love these videos bro, and I got no idea why, do a stat on why your videos are so insteresting haha
Ssote
Ssote 4 วันที่ผ่านมา
not putting dirk in shot making must be criminal
Quasi
Quasi 4 วันที่ผ่านมา
You didn't take into account steals and blocks, and turnovers
Taj's Discord
Taj's Discord 4 วันที่ผ่านมา
this just makes me realize that Giannis AT MINIMUM is top 20 all time. anyone without a ring can't say shit to him. Anyone who played against plumbers can't say shit to him. Theres honestly only 10 players better than him on here if we are being honest. and he's only 26
360 Kingz
360 Kingz 4 วันที่ผ่านมา
Luka
TheSymster
TheSymster 4 วันที่ผ่านมา
I love data but damn bro. this guy is married to it :)
Ice
Ice 4 วันที่ผ่านมา
Westbrook making the list shows the flaw in using pure stats Klay Steph and draymond changed basketball completely went to the finals 5 times in a row sustained dominance alert
Strix
Strix 4 วันที่ผ่านมา
You should've used only the stats of their peak years, since some players fell off and others gradually built their game. Also that shot making stat is recency bias at it's best. But most importantly NOWAY James Harden is the 24th best player of all time. NOWAY! If he played in ANY other era he would be an average player, half his points come from flopping, which was only a foul in the NBA for a few years..
SlyRacoon
SlyRacoon 4 วันที่ผ่านมา
At least in this list klay makes top 75
Jt WRLD
Jt WRLD 5 วันที่ผ่านมา
How is Alex Caruso not on the list???
Rece
Rece 5 วันที่ผ่านมา
I always peeped all the greats have a 3 in their number with Kobe being the only exception
Varuzhan Kadoyan
Varuzhan Kadoyan 5 วันที่ผ่านมา
Kobe > LeBron
etc
etc 5 วันที่ผ่านมา
A Video about Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah would be interesting.
Keli Junior
Keli Junior 5 วันที่ผ่านมา
You misses A.I. on the last one. He had a big impact.
Andos Gandos
Andos Gandos 5 วันที่ผ่านมา
i knew it klay deserved to be in top 75
Dean Manulong
Dean Manulong 5 วันที่ผ่านมา
Not gonna lie...... I think this is the most accurate graph of greatness
john cates
john cates 5 วันที่ผ่านมา
I love the list and the video. There is no perfect way to do this. A player like McGrady had to take a lot of shots all the time and played on teams that hinged on him producing. Then you have player like Bird and Magic that played on very good teams. If Bird and Magic had been on teams where they were the one man show, those numbers would be better. You also have player like Luka, LeBron and Harden who have the ball in there hands for more minutes (on average) than anyone pre-2000.
tsabee13
tsabee13 5 วันที่ผ่านมา
What a great, thought-provoking video! Thank you for your efforts!
Victory George
Victory George 5 วันที่ผ่านมา
Chris Paul is ranked too high 🤣🤣🤣🤣
BeefBones
BeefBones 6 วันที่ผ่านมา
Putting in the All Defensive team is pretty stupid if you arent going to put in an asterisk like the Finals MVP. Started in the 68-69 season, which was Bill Russells last season, and Wilt had already played 9 seasons before it was introduced. Then the random, this stat can get 30, this tops out at 20, and then randomly make up a stat.
Alvin S
Alvin S 6 วันที่ผ่านมา
Don't show this to Klay
Pedro Hernandez
Pedro Hernandez 6 วันที่ผ่านมา
Lámelo ball or luka
Evan Steinberg
Evan Steinberg 6 วันที่ผ่านมา
Idk man. Steph and Stockton need to be higher. Also I’m sorry I love the guy but Luka is not on this list for like 8 more years, let alone one spot behind Reggie. Alex English is MIA and he had a much more impact over a 15 yr career than Lukas first 3 years. Just can’t compare someone so early in their career even if they’re a superstar to someone who had a hall of fame career
Hakeem Anderson
Hakeem Anderson 6 วันที่ผ่านมา
Not having Allen Iverson on a shot creating top 20 is crazy to me
AnuTime19
AnuTime19 6 วันที่ผ่านมา
Putting Jordan that low on shot making makes your whole list questionable
Bryce Correia
Bryce Correia 6 วันที่ผ่านมา
Curry should be number 1 for people who changed the game he changed basically everyone who plays basketball today
Leo _
Leo _ 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
Take out luka replace him with dwight and you got a damn good list
Adham Elnabarawy
Adham Elnabarawy 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
15:11 he did dwayne wrong lmao
Fat Boy
Fat Boy 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
Michael Jordan number 13 shot making??? Yeah he didn’t shoot the 3 too often but at what point does..... I mean you have Klay above MJ! Klay is more deadly from 3 no contest no doubt about it. What about every other spot on the floor including midrange? Come on man.
yonis wasuge
yonis wasuge 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
Kawhi much better then cp3
nash castillo
nash castillo 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
this guy literally putting kobe above jordan in shot making HAHAHAHAHAHA
Greg Otis
Greg Otis 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
It’s definitely not an 100% chance Bill Russell wins at least 6 finals mvps.. many of those finals mvps could’ve easily gone to other players. Possibilities in order Championship 1 - Tom Heinsohn or Bob Cousy Championship 2- Tom Heinsohn or Frank Ramsey Championship 3 - Tom Heinsohn , Bill Sharmen or Bill Russell Championship 4 - Tom Heinsohn, Bob Cousey or Bill Russell Championship 5 - Bill Russell 100% Championship 6 - Bill Russell 80% , Tom Heinsohn, Sam Jones Championship 7 - Sam Jones, John Havlicek, Bill Russell Championship 8 - Bill Russell, John Havlicek, Sam Jones Championship 9 - John Havlicek 80%, Bill Russell, Bailey Howell Championship 10 - 100% John Havlicek Championship 11- John Havlicek, Sam Jones,
Mr Golfer
Mr Golfer 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
How do cp3 ends up in top 20....he's just top 50... And curry is the one who chance how the game is played...not mj
David Washington
David Washington 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
Greatest team imaginable ever LeBron, Zion, Kobe, Michael, Olajuwon. Magic, Penny, Harden, Daryl Dawkin, Scottie. Dr.J., David Thompson, Durant, Gervin, Kareem.
Craig Klein
Craig Klein 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
Laughed at the MJ mixtape and the Skip Bayless roast
scooter boyz
scooter boyz 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
paul george??
Contingency theory
Contingency theory 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
T Mac needs to be top 50 at least
Matrix
Matrix 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
10:00 where is john stockton???????
Shelxve GG
Shelxve GG 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
Iverson would have been so much higher
Affen Papst
Affen Papst 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
Great video man. I think the top 10 is great but can we please talk about the drop-off in points from Durant to Shaq, thats almost 20 points. Shaq is much closer to Larry than Durant. So its more like a top 9 and then 66 other guys fairly close to others ranking close to them in terms of points.
Rez
Rez 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
Stephan Curry at 16 doesn't make any logical sense. The man is a top 10, it's not even a question. You can go ahead and throw this list in the trash too.
Matthew Foster
Matthew Foster 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
Bill Russell too low so something wrong with the relative weights of the statistics. He belongs at number 1 or 2.
Esoy Pongasi
Esoy Pongasi 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
Steph Curry not in the top 10 is very wrong! Very very wrong!
Journeyman2585
Journeyman2585 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
I really really appreciate that you always use actual numbers to justify your opinions. Having even a little bit of objectivity instead of everything being 100 percent subjective give the opinions more weight imo.
Matt C
Matt C 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
Basketball is a team sport... There is no really great players but a great team and chemistry... Even Michael Jordan will lose with a bad team.. Wtf is this none sense
Darrien Reasonover
Darrien Reasonover 8 วันที่ผ่านมา
No way Dwight Howard got snubbed here too💀
Faze Booze
Faze Booze 7 วันที่ผ่านมา
That’s what I thought too😂😂😂😂😂
Michael Warwick
Michael Warwick 8 วันที่ผ่านมา
Okay i know im watching this late but Luka Doncic is not top 110 all time yet, he will be, also even if he was his carreer is so young so his ppg is going to be good and his shooting percentage.
TahitianTreat SkeetJuice
TahitianTreat SkeetJuice 8 วันที่ผ่านมา
that 1st list, with mostly players from the 90s and before, nothing but gods. no nba era, before nor after, compares to the greatness that u see in this video. NOT ONE.
Deelaw
Deelaw 8 วันที่ผ่านมา
Luka playing 3 seasons and he’s 42
Aaron Lavapie
Aaron Lavapie 8 วันที่ผ่านมา
And as you can see, even the numbers proves that MJ is the GOAT 🐐
Thhhomas
Thhhomas 8 วันที่ผ่านมา
I LOVED that bit at the end. If your list isn’t topped by Jordan, you may as well go ahead and throw it away🐐🐐🐐
METAF4
METAF4 8 วันที่ผ่านมา
Luka is a fuking PROBLEM!!!! As long as he stays healthy?!?! Bruh....he gonna shake things up when people start talking GOAT talks in about 10 years from now..
LORBER LORBER
LORBER LORBER 8 วันที่ผ่านมา
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